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 poll_icon  Poll  Poll Question: Do you or have you ever smoked?
Have you always been a non smoker? VotesVotesVotes 1 (3%)
Did you smoke at one time, but are a non smoker now? VotesVotesVotes 10 (32%)
Do you smoke now? VotesVotesVotes 12 (38%)
Are you a nonsmoker, but live with or have lived with a smoker? VotesVotesVotes 8 (25%)
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« Reply #30 on: Mar 24th, 2004, 10:14pm »

OK Shazza,

Quick...get yourself some Wellbutrin and quit with me week after this. I don't like the insomnia, wired feeling of Wellbutrin but what's a few weeks...In that time we'll quit smoking, nearly pain free and lose tons of weight!

I just tried to have dinner and ate about 1/3 of my plate by forcing myself. I forced myself to eat a bowl of cereal at 2:00 PM when I realized I hadn't eaten all day. The thought of eating is rather disgusting. This must be what movie stars take to keep their figures.

I'm not taking my nicotine dose because of urges, I'm doing it now because it's habit and I haven't come to my quit date (you're supposed to continue nicotine until quit date). Upon quit date I will double my dose and probably be a basket case for a few days but whatever it takes to quit this highly addictive substance.

I hope I don't get fearful and depressed which is what threw me off the last time, but with this Wellbutrin I don't feel any emotions. We'll see but tonight I feel I've found a miracle drug...the weight loss I've been seeking so long and quit smoking too...Wow.

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« Reply #31 on: Mar 25th, 2004, 4:49pm »

Apparently Wellbutrin doesn't affect others like it does me. Went to regular doc today and the assistant is taking it to quit smoking. He doesn't feel anything from taking 100 mg doses and is hoping it starts doing something pretty soon, he has CFS.

Meanwhile I raised my dose to about 75 mg and really feel it. Like being wired but not really, I usually want to smoke when I'm wired but don't want to with this med.

I've been splitting the tabs and doc's assistant today informed me that with this Sustained Release Wellbutrin the pharmacist told him not to split the tabs since he would get all the stuff at one time. I haven't found that a problem though, I never feel like it wears off.

My doc says everyone responds differently. He also told me I'm playing Russian Roulette by continuing with nicotine (I'm 54 and he's not an alarmist doctor).

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« Reply #32 on: Mar 27th, 2004, 3:17pm »

My body's reaction toWellbutrin is changing. I started on March 22, 4 days ago, and less than 40 mg really got to me, forgot to smoke or eat. Tried 75 mg last week and was very high, again no eating and no smoke urge, but wired. Today I took 50 mg and was hungry enough to cook breakfast and am doing my Nicotrol Nasal Spray, I think I need 75 mg. now.

I guess I'm quickly building a tolerance. My plan was to start week one of quitting on Monday and quit the following Monday, doubling the dose on quit day as Zyban site says. You're supposed to take 150 mg then double to 300, since it effects me so much I thought I'd take whatever I could tolerate during week then double.

Question: Has anybody who has taken Wellbutrin or Zyban felt the no urge to smoke, no pleasure from smoking, distaste for eating symptoms that I felt from this med?

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« Reply #33 on: Mar 27th, 2004, 8:54pm »

I don't know about the smoking thing, but it does change taste of some foods. And, I understand that you can become anorexic from it so do be careful. Sending many more non-smoking (((vibes))) your way. You can do it!
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« Reply #34 on: Mar 27th, 2004, 10:08pm »

Thanks Lendi, I am getting nervous about my quit day, still a week away. I'm afraid I'll get depressed and go crazy. I got terribly depressed last time I tried.

I am depressed right now because I'm in a relapse, it seems depression settles in on me during relapse and I don't think I'll ever be better . After my quit day I'll have to be careful not to have a relapse or I don't know if I'll have the internal strength to quit. I guess that means about 3 weeks of no relapse, hope I can do it.

I'm hoping the high dosage of Wellbutrin will prevent depression since it seems to make me emotionless, but I took some today and still depressed. Maybe I didn't take enough.

Do you take it? If so, do you take it for depression?

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« Reply #35 on: Mar 28th, 2004, 12:00am »

I smoke.
I love to smoke.
I have no intention of quitting smoking.
I don't give a rat's butt if you don't like the way I smell.
I believe I can choose the way I might die.
I will choose cigarettes over alcohol any day.
I have a sign on my door that says, "This is a smokers only premises. If you do not smoke, you must stay outside." - just kidding on that one.


Smoking is enjoyable for me, it is a mini meditation time. Don't lecture me about health, mine is fine thanks and if it isn't - I don't whine about it. I pay a significant sin tax to enjoy my habit ($9 a pack) and hopefully some of that money goes to support health care that I will need at some future point when I get hit with a bus (which I believe has about the same chance of happening as me getting lung cancer).

All the evidence is there to show alcohol is just as deadly and yet society thrives on giving drinkers places to go and assumes drinking is part of a "life style".

I refuse to be a leper of the 21st century. I want to smoke where ever I go and not suffer the supercilious stares of those offended by smoke (or in some delusional state about 2nd hand smoke - don't like it - then leave you idiot). People who wear perfume should be arrested, they smell bad and I am very sensitive to the smell of those chemicals to the point it affects my health - ergo - let's outlaw perfume.

You see where I am going with this don't you. It's a choice like any other. You do or you don't. You will or you won't.

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« Reply #36 on: Mar 28th, 2004, 12:32am »

I took welbutrin for a bit, supposedly to help with pain. Unfortunatly, it made me behave like a raving idiot! I was either in tears, truly depressed, or I was very, very angry and had evil thoughts about biting everyone's head off. I also found that my already garbagy sleep cycle was even worse as I could not sleep even with my night sleeping meds. So, I took myself off. My SIL uses wellbutrin for depression and it has helped her a lot. She's found it gives her some energy during the day and feels better. Since she feels better during the day, she does more and is sleeping better. So, I guess each of us really do reacat differently.
Strider, you sound just like my FIL did. LOL He always said that since you had to die anyway you might as well live life the way you wanted to. He used loose tobacco and rolled his own. We'd buy the papers and tobacco for him as gifts and I always wondered if the clerks really thought we were up to something entirely different smiley
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« Reply #37 on: Mar 28th, 2004, 3:42pm »

Strider, you have real fortitude to maintain your attitude in the face of societal pressure.

I do really want to quit, reasons are: I don't want to be like my mother who usually has 3 cigs going at once, I really dislike my mother and want don't want to be like her, none, I mean none of my social circle smokes, I want to be free from the tyranny of nicotine addiction- I'm tired of it running my life to the extent it does, I hate sneaking around to get my fix. Lastly, for health reasons - even my non-alarmist doc says I'm playing russian roulette with nicotine.

So, I don't want to smoke anymore. It's a tought addiction to quit though. If someone asked me if I wish I had never started I would definitely say yes.

Lendi, sorry to hear about your Wellbutrin experience, I've never felt that bad on it although I'm real sensitive to it, still splitting tabs to keep dosage lower. Starting tomorrow I'm gonna step up the dosage since my body seems to be adjusting to it. Hope it works out well.

Thanks for the input.

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« Reply #38 on: Mar 28th, 2004, 4:34pm »

I can identify with you Strider.

I loved smoking. I liked the taste the smell, how it calmed me the whole nine yards.

People that love it have a really hard time giving it up but most people that do get like me, a real pain in the rear when other people do it around them. wink

Now let's talk chocolate!!! grin

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« Reply #39 on: Mar 29th, 2004, 12:01am »

I also LOVED smoking. It was just a pleasurable experience for me, but decided to give it up for my health. I'm glad I did, since I'd be broke by now when it's what - $3 a pack?

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« Reply #40 on: Mar 29th, 2004, 09:11am »

AH..................I also love smoking! But it is affecting my health - short winded, etc! So it is time for me to quit for good!
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« Reply #41 on: Mar 29th, 2004, 7:46pm »

Isn't it odd how perspectives differ? I think I only did it because all of my friends did which isn't a very good reason at all. rolleyes
Hollie, I'm glad the wellbutrin is working so well for you. It's nice to have a med that works for more than one thing.
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« Reply #42 on: Mar 29th, 2004, 9:23pm »

The time is drawing near. I too must admit I love smoking. But for my own health, as well as my new furniture I really must quit. I also have the shortness of breath, and sometimes my lungs hurt (in the back) in the mornings when I wake. I am terrified of gaining weight though, so have been trying to crash diet off some pounds before quitting.
I think that has been an excuse for a long time, but I really do gotta give em up.
Sorry the wellbutrin made ya nuts Lendi, it wires me too, and less sleep is not something I need. I will try it again though, the state of South Dakota will even PAY for that and the patches with their "Quit line" program.. ...
One of the good things Mr Janklow did for this state.
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« Reply #43 on: Mar 29th, 2004, 10:23pm »

Hey, everything has changed!

After a few days of feeling pretty good on the Well. I feel really lousy now. I had a relapse for 2 days, I think I overdid exercise, but this is the third day and I feel awful, depressed and I believe it is from the Wellbutrin, not CFS.

I feel emotionless, except some real sadness (depression), tension, fatigue, just yucky...I don't think I have the internal strength to quit smoking feeling like this. I googled a forum called Wellbutrin/Zyban Victims and my reaction is common. Lots of scarey things on that site. I hate to say this since Fancy had such good luck with it but I think I'm quitting Wellbutrin tomorrow and gonna rely on my acupuncturist for help. Still planning to quit smoking after this week though.

Don't want to scare you and maybe I'm wrong, I hear many people do great on Wellbutrin/Zyban, it is banned in France though.

So glad I'll have company on my quit journey, are you'all planning to do Wellbutrin/Zyban. I have to quit smoking now for social reasons and because I want to quit.

The only other methods that I know are successful are Allen Carr's Easy Way book and help, and acupuncture.

Any feedback on Wellbutrin/Zyban effects appreciated!

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« Reply #44 on: Mar 30th, 2004, 9:21pm »

I quit the Wellbutrin today and feel great again, back to my old self. Too many people felt bad like I did on it for that to be coincidental.

Went to my acupuncturist today, he will be my quit smoking program. He wants me to taper off the Nicotrol NS, start taking sprays only when I feel true cravings, not out of habit or because it would just be nice. This is tougher than I thought, I'm getting used to my body's desperation for nicotine.

Meanwhile acupuncturist is treating me for smoking (getting rid of cravings), insomnia, CFS and general calmness. I hope to God my situation is similar to others who wrote in his book that they easily quit after being treated by him.

I guess I have to make friends with my cravings, realize they will only last so long and eventually this nicotine addiction monster will be out of my system. They say it takes 3 weeks for the nic to be out of your system. One theory is that you should start enjoying your cravings with the knowledge that they are a sign the monster is dying.

I've had to taper off sleep meds and anti-depressants, I thought that was tough, this so far is tougher.

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