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 poll_icon  Poll  Poll Question: Do you or have you ever smoked?
Have you always been a non smoker? VotesVotesVotes 1 (3%)
Did you smoke at one time, but are a non smoker now? VotesVotesVotes 10 (32%)
Do you smoke now? VotesVotesVotes 12 (38%)
Are you a nonsmoker, but live with or have lived with a smoker? VotesVotesVotes 8 (25%)
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« Reply #15 on: Mar 23rd, 2004, 2:02pm »

Wellbutrin Drug Interactions:
Before taking Wellbutrin (bupropion) tell your doctor of all nonprescription and prescription medications you may use especially: MAO inhibitors (e.g., isocarboxazid, phenelzine, tranylcypromine, pargyline, selegiline, linezolid, furazolidone), levodopa, ritonavir, corticosteroids (e.g. prednisone), sedatives, adrenaline-like stimulants (e.g., ephedrine), products containing nicotine (e.g., patches or gum). Also report use of drugs which might increase seizure risk (decrease seizure threshold) such as: phenothiazines (e.g., chlorpromazine), tricyclic antidepressants (e.g., amitriptyline), isoniazid (INH), theophylline. Excess caffeine intake can increase the chance of seizures with this drug. Check all nonprescription/prescription drug labels for caffeine. Consult your doctor or pharmacist. A certain product used to help quit smoking contains bupropion. Do not take that product while using this one. Do not start or stop any medicine without doctor or pharmacist approval.

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If overdose is suspected, contact your local poison control center or emergency room immediately. Symptoms of overdose may include seizures, hallucinations, rapid heart rate, and loss of consciousness.

It does say that it is used for smoking..........................

and now on to Zyban....................................................

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« Reply #16 on: Mar 23rd, 2004, 2:13pm »

Stop Smoking : Zyban

This medicine contains the active ingredient bupropion hydrochloride, which is a medicine used to help people who are dependant on nicotine to give up smoking. It acts in the brain but is not the same as nicotine replacement therapy.
It is not fully understood how this medicine works to help people give up smoking, but it is known that bupropion affects neurotransmitters in the brain. Neurotransmitters are chemicals that are stored in nerve cells and are involved in transmitting messages between the nerve cells.

Neurotransmitters are released from nerve cells as a message is transmitted. Once the message has been transmitted, the nerve cells then reabsorb the neurotransmitter.

Bupropion prevents two of these neurotransmitters, noradrenaline and dopamine, from being reabsorbed back into the nerve cells. Noradrenaline and dopamine are responsible for moderating mood and various other processes in the brain. It is thought that bupropion helps people to quit smoking by increasing the amount of noradrenaline and dopamine free to act in the brain.

Bupropion is used in combination with motivational support techniques. You should seek help and support as much as possible while giving up smoking, even while taking this medicine, as this will increase your chance of success.

You should start taking this medicine while you are still smoking and set a 'target stop date' for within the first two weeks of treatment, preferably in the first week. This is because the medicine needs time to start working.

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« Reply #17 on: Mar 23rd, 2004, 2:15pm »

And what I was looking for..........................

Bupropion or Zyban is use to reduce withdrawal symptoms experienced in smoking cessation. Bupropion or Zyban is marketed under the name Wellbutrin as an antidepressant

Bupropion or Zyban acts at the nervous system level to counteract the symptoms of withdrawal - irritability, dizziness. It also seems to reduce the urge to smoke.

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« Reply #18 on: Mar 23rd, 2004, 3:06pm »

My father smoked when I was small, but quite...I used to smoke now and then when I was in my late teens...but thankfully it never became a habit.

Hubby smokes...but goes outside since I have asthma and since our son was born. He's tried to quit sooo many times but in his line of work it's tough (bar owner) because everyone else is smoking around you all day long.

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« Reply #19 on: Mar 23rd, 2004, 3:12pm »

OH Danny...........I feel for your hubby.........even with the aids available it would be very hard for hubby to quit! I know that I am going to have to distance myself from smokers for a while..........not because I'll want to smoke......the Zyban takes that urge away........but because that BAD HABIT will still be with me.....kinda like biting your fingernails.........it is the HABIT that I have a hard time dealing with not the addiction!
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« Reply #20 on: Mar 23rd, 2004, 5:10pm »

So Fancy, you've been busy getting all this info on the site.

It seems Wellbutrin and Zyban are the same thing? Perhaps you can get Wellbutrin covered under insurance?

I'm not quite clear about your comment about the "drugs to watch", are you now hesitant to take it? Didn't you say you were taking 2 150 mg tabs at one time?

I'm used to hearing scarey things in the side effects literature, are you concerned? I figure we'd only be taking it temporarily until after the nic is out of our system and cravings go away. My doc knows all the other meds I'm taking, I'll remind him of your post when I go in Thursday and get a new scrip for Wellbutrin.

I'm encouraged that it seemed to say you don't need to take the maximum dosage to get the quit smoking benefits since the max seems too high for my body. I took another 1/4 150 mg. tab today and I honestly forget to take my nicotine, my urges are suppressed. When I do take a hit I'm not getting the same pleasure but don't really care. If I increase to 1/2 tab I'll probably really feel these benefits. Is that how you felt on Zyban?

I hope this med sticks around, with all the advertising they're doing a lot of people must be using it. Also, looking very forward to the weight loss it supposedly provides. I am not hungry on it. But when it wears off in the evening I go out and eat too much. Guess I'd better start taking 1/4 twice a day, but then what about insomnia? Did it cause insomnia with you Fancy?

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« Reply #21 on: Mar 24th, 2004, 08:52am »

Night before last our local news gave 10 antidepresiants that seem to have sucidial (SP) side effects! (Welbutrian was #10!) No I am not hesitant to take it as I have taken it before and didn't have a problem! And I will see if I can get the Welbutrian covered by insurance and see if it does as well as the Zyban did.
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« Reply #22 on: Mar 24th, 2004, 09:04am »

ER here! I see that there still is not a place to vote!!!! How are we going to see results if people can't vote. They have been at 18 votes for days! I belive I was the one that voted and it went to 18. Just wondering. Erlene huh rolleyes
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« Reply #23 on: Mar 24th, 2004, 09:38am »

My page shows a place to vote...........I don't know what to tell you that will help.................the place to vote is at the very top of the page.......................if you still don't see it please send a PM to Michelle and maybe she can help............or one of the others.............................
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For the past year I mainly smoked outside. That in itself was a stsrting point to quit. If I wanted to smoke I'd put it off alittle longer. Drink water. It passes. There isn't a day that goes by that I don't want one. My sister had 1/2 lung removed last June. She hasn't smoked for 15 trs. or more, but her hubby still does. Past 2 yrs.makes him go outside. Price , I couldn't afford my Riley's diabetic stuff if I keep smoking. I ger very angry at times. Worried about having to loose him soon, Mom's not well, dementia & heart, my body & belly sucks, I could go on. I was sexually abused as a kid for many yrs. I think that's alot of the anger coming out now! Check the website, it's good to start preparing before quitting. Hope this helps, Good Luck & stay strong & determined to win the battle!! grin www.lungusa.com Smedly P.S. God Bless ER for putting up with me!!!!! shocked sad angry smiley
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Me again, I see that I should read my post before I put it up! grin As I once wrote my sister in nurses training,Please excuz the mistooks. I was about 6. Can't believe that I had a's & b's in school & didn't really apply myself to do it. Just imaginehuh
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« Reply #26 on: Mar 24th, 2004, 2:32pm »

I know I have mentioned her books before but Julia Ross's book "The Mood Cure" gives a real insight into why some addictions can be so hard to quit.

She gives info on how you can help yourself and if you follow her advice before trying to give it up it will be easier. Her advice would certainly be a good option for those who don't want to risk anti depressants.

Those who found it too hard in the past won't feel like failures, or be so hard on themselves if they understood why, in Julia Ross's opinions it was just too difficult.

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« Reply #27 on: Mar 24th, 2004, 6:28pm »

I didn't have any trouble voting, just clicked on the button I wanted. Hope everybody can vote now.

This is my 3rd day on 1/4 tab Wellbutrin. I don't feel the "no urge to smoke" as strongly today and other feelings have lessened, so I think I'm building a tolerance. I'll try 1/2 tomorrow, then take it all next week too, then I'll quit smoking and increase dose again. I will probably max out at 150 mg after quitting since you're supposed to double it. It should work OK, my body just can't tolerate the typical dosages.

I do get spacey on it but small price to pay for the benefits. I get so spacey my mood is non existant, I can't imagine being desperate for anything or even considering suicide on this med, I feel nothing.

I'm noticing I am not eating and don't want to eat AT ALL! The eating I'm doing is by forcing myself. The perfect diet drug, I'm sure I'll be losing weight.

I have been able to sleep barely. Every night I think I won't be able to sleep since I still feel a little 'wired" from the Wellbutrin. I don't know if it's the acupuncture or herbs he's giving me or what but I do fall asleep and sleep well...right after telling myself I'll never get to sleep.

Fancy, does this med give you insomnia? Weight loss?

I keep thinking about those TV ads for Wellbutrin where the woman says something like..."I'm not depressed anymore and I still have a great sex drive" Can't wait for the increased sex drive to kick in!

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« Reply #28 on: Mar 24th, 2004, 9:50pm »

Oh my we are a bunch of smokers!! Scary isn't it?
I am going to quit, at least smoking in the house. We ordered new furniture and when it gets here, no more.
I have to quit soon though, I am going to lose my health insurance in October and will be abel to go on South Dakota continuance but if you smoke, it is over 500.00 per MONTH. Ouch.
We have a "quit line" here, and the state will pay for patches and wellbutrin as well. I didn't care for the wellbutrin when I took it as an AD, it caused more insomnia for me. I have enough of that already.
I just wanna know one thing. NOBODY ever took that first drag and said "wow this is GOOD" so how in the world did we ever get hooked?
Oh well. Best of luck to all you future nonsmokers, maybe we can start a support group?

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« Reply #29 on: Mar 24th, 2004, 10:00pm »

Fancy & Hollie,
Ken & I saw that same report about the 10 drugs - antidepressents - that can cause suicide tendencies. I take Lexapro & it was on the list too. I've been taking it for a year now & no problems.

The report said that if you are one who will get these tendencies it will be within the first 2 weeks.

There was a report 2 summers ago that said basically the same thing about Paxil - except you got the tendency to suicide when you went off the med. I was on that at the time & called my doc & asked about it. He said he hadn't read any reports about it. He sent someone from his office out to buy a paper, read the article & called me back.

He said that these kinds of tendencies usually only happen when one is on a real high dose & you try to quit it cold turkey & not under your doc's instructions. He said when you're on a high dose you have to wean yourself off. Since I only took 5mg. a day, I had nothing to worry about.

Hollie, it sounds like you are well on your way to joining the ranks of the non-smokers! Congratulations so far. Keep up the good work. You can do it, I just know you can! wink
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